I wrote this and posted it to Mastodon less than a fortnight ago. Here it is again on my blog, with some minor edits and updated with recent events.
What is mumsnet and how did it get like this
Somebody may have written a proper paper on this, but I want to speculate briefly on how mumsnet happened, which hopefully might point towards preventative measures.
Cis Britons know mumsnet as a webforum for mothers. However, over the last 20 years, it has gradually turned into a highly influential transphobic hate site, while also still being a major, mainstream site for especially new mothers.
The site launched 30-ish years ago, when webforums were still exciting. This was during the digital divide era, so the initial culture was established by middle class women.
It exists partly as a response to some cultural problems in the UK. The thing about England is that people here hate children. Loathe them. This is not a joke. Indeed, even more than people hate children, they abhor babies. At most venues, indoor smoking is more welcome than babies. There aren’t really that many places that people staying home with new babies can go.
Also, despite national myths, England is as sexist as America. New mums are specifically vulnerable to this. They’re cut off from their normal support networks. For natal mothers, embodied aspects of childbirth also bring the full weight of “women are icky” down upon their heads.
So, are you feeling lonely, isolated, disempowered, at odds with your husband who suddenly has some traditional ideas about nappy changing or whatever? Well, here’s a place where you can go to talk to other people just like yourself! Other lonely, aggrieved, relatively wealthy, entitled (but suddenly cut off from various forms of power) people, trying to figure out how to navigate a very hostile system. Share stories! Trade tips! Organise!
Politicians started having to go talk to mumsnet to win voters. This impacted policy. Political organisation on the forums worked!
This is rather a lot for a chat board for mothers, which, by design, was never intended to address parenthood (let alone personhood) more generally. For example, its not intended for men on paternity leave, who also have the same isolation and hostile systems (although not the same kind of sexism). People of other genders who have given birth have to deal with a highly gendered space if they want to join. Adoptive mums have their own battles on the platform. And it only solves part of the problem it’s tackling: people meeting up online are still isolated from face to face connections.
However, the evolution from social space to political space also created additional problems which the site did not address. Decades ago, Jo Freeman wrote ‘The Tyranny of Structurelessness‘ which describes how consciousness raising groups (women’s mutual support groups) did not transfer well to being political groups, because political groups need to be organised in ways that acknowledge and account for power relationships. Mutual support groups can kind of ignore those, but as soon as they try to go out and do something, systems of oppressive power are replicated, cliquiness and/or bullying arises. Mumsnet has all of those problems at mass scale.
Finally, the biggest problem of all, especially as mumsnet moved into politics: it equates womanhood with motherhood.
Despite or perhaps because of these flaws, it was still a lively discussion platform. It became a major centre for discussion of ‘women’s issues’ and feminism. The political forums of the site started to attract women who did not actually have kids. This creates a structural tension, as we have a definition of womanhood essentially rooted in giving birth, but also a population of invested users who have not and will not do so. Part of the project of the forum therefore includes navigating that tension – the definition of womanhood is inherently under negotiation in the space. Middle class white feminists want in, so they need to redraw the boundary so that a different Other is excluded. This discussion is also taking place where many of the participants are entitled but isolated and vulnerable. Some people in this position are searching for an Other to blame. Men are an obvious target, but not a safe one. The pre-existing tradition of British terfism, already popular with some of the political participants, provided an answer to all of these problems.
In retrospect, it seems inevitable it would turn into a hate site. Indeed, every social site eventually turns into a hate site if it is popular and not moderated. Mumsnet moderators did a calculation of how many haters loved the site, how many people didn’t care about the issue, and how many trans mums they were driving off. The compromise they came up with was to keep the hatred relatively contained in radioactive corners of the site. And this has worked great. It’s still a major site for mums. It has developed terfism from a fringe concern to the UK’s mainstream feminism. Everyone (that matters) is happy.
The Supreme Court
In the time since I originally wrote the above, the Supreme Court of the UK has issued a ruling on gender. The influence of mumsnet has reached the highest court – the official definition of womanhood is now cemented in mumsnet logic.
I want to very strongly assert that this really is mumsnet’s victory. It is not a coincidence that the hatred and arguments hashed out by connected, professional, influential, posh women has changed government policy in very real ways that have real impacts on other women, men and non-binary people.
A good reputation
After writing this, I had dinner with some cis friends who are parents and tried broaching the topic of whether mumsnet might be problematic. For many cis people, the success and affordances of the site vastly outweighs the minor inconvenience of trans people losing their human rights.
Do try talking to your friends, sure, but it may not be enough and this may be something trans people may wish to delegate.
Solving the problem
So, what do we do? When they had their billboard co-advertising campaign “Brand X is endorsed by mumsnet”, I wrote to several of the advertisers I saw, linking them to an NGO’s designation of them as a hate site. (A link I no longer possess and can’t recover because websearch has ceased working. However, Vice does have an article.)
The bigger solution, of course, is to do something about England. The trend of kids in pubs is helping. But better access to childcare, more tolerance of babies in public spaces, more access to babysitting/childcare are all needed.
And while we’re at it: lift the benefit cap, make sure everyone has their basic needs met, recognise that the UN’s human rights includes not only food and shelter and so forth, but also leisure. There need to be free activities welcoming to mixed groups including people with kids and people without.
Women would stop joining mumsnet if they could get their social needs met by their existing networks. The stigmatisation of giving birth needs to end. And, in the mean time, getting new mums on to, say, federated social media like Mastodon, is honestly kind of a hard sell. For cis people who don’t care really about their trans friends’s political wellbeing outside of an abstract oh-dearism, leaving mumsnet doesn’t have the urgency of leaving US big tech. Federated social media does not having a ready made user base for new parents on the same scale. Again, this is a conversation people should try to have.
But, let’s be real, by “people” I mean cis people. Especially parents. Especially mothers. Because that’s who is going to have sway.